From telesistant at hotmail.com Sat Feb 3 09:23:11 2007 From: telesistant at hotmail.com (Jim Duuuude) Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 07:23:11 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt] new softwares Message-ID: For those of you who are brave I have posted the new version of asterisk (1.4 CVN) that seems to finally work well enough to be useful and stable, and associated new (work) version of app_rpt. Check out: http://www.zapatatelephony.org/new From stephen.brown75 at gmail.com Tue Feb 6 09:43:22 2007 From: stephen.brown75 at gmail.com (Stephen Brown Jr) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 10:43:22 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt] Setting up a simplex node Message-ID: Hi, I've been lurking on this list for quite some time and I am extremely interested in setting up a simplex node to start playing with this. What exactly will I need besides the obvious(radio, computer, etc), I am little confused on what type of FXS card I will need just for a single radio, all the ones I have seen are fairly pricey. I will then need an ARIB board to interface the radio to the FXS card correct? tnx and 73's Stephen N1VLV -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.illiana.net/pipermail/app_rpt/attachments/20070206/b68d351d/attachment.htm From aat3bf at armymars.net Tue Feb 6 09:45:54 2007 From: aat3bf at armymars.net (John K. Scoggin, Jr. AAT3BF/W3JKS) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 10:45:54 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt] PCI Radio Interface Card Message-ID: I tried sending email to the "sales" email address, but it bounced. How much are the PCI radio interfaces going for these days? john John K. Scoggin, Jr. W3JKS/AAT3BF/AAA9SL/NCS207 Special Consultant, Army MARS Winlink 2000 Station AAB3DE DHS SHARES Digital Coordination Station - East Phone: (302) 451-5000 Email: aat3bf at armymars.net AKO: john.k.scoggin at us.army.mil From hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com Tue Feb 6 11:29:38 2007 From: hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com (Steve Rodgers) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 09:29:38 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt] Setting up a simplex node In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200702060929.38932.hwstar@rodgers.sdcoxmail.com> John, You will need the following in addition to what you have already listed: 1. A digium TDM400 with one FXS daughterboard. Digium part number TDM10B. This is going to cost around $140.00. There is a Chinese knockoff of the TDM400p part number A400P10 for $93.00 which we haven't tested available from openvox: http://www.openvox.com.cn/products_detail.php?genre_id=9&id=27. 2. One ARIB board. This board can be built for around $60-$70. Board blanks are available from us for $10 each plus shipping. 3. A modular to modular to modular telephone cable. We would like to suggest you plan to build a full-duplex system as this will provide much more flexibility than a simplex node. BTW: We are working on a less expensive solution which requires 2 of inexpensive X100p FXO cards (around $10-$20) plus a modified ARIB, but it isn't ready yet as it requires either changes to the ARIB, or an addtional external board. Steve. On Tuesday 06 February 2007 07:43, Stephen Brown Jr wrote: > Hi, I've been lurking on this list for quite some time and I am extremely > interested in setting up a simplex node to start playing with this. What > exactly will I need besides the obvious(radio, computer, etc), I am little > confused on what type of FXS card I will need just for a single radio, all > the ones I have seen are fairly pricey. I will then need an ARIB board to > interface the radio to the FXS card correct? > > tnx and 73's > Stephen > N1VLV From stephen.brown75 at gmail.com Tue Feb 6 12:06:52 2007 From: stephen.brown75 at gmail.com (Stephen Brown Jr) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 13:06:52 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt] Setting up a simplex node In-Reply-To: <200702060929.38932.hwstar@rodgers.sdcoxmail.com> References: <200702060929.38932.hwstar@rodgers.sdcoxmail.com> Message-ID: > We would like to suggest you plan to build a full-duplex system as this will provide much more flexibility than a simplex node. That brings up another interesting point that I failed to mention in my original posting. I am a little confused as to the definition of full duplex. When I think full duplex, I think that of like a telephone conversation where the caller and receiver can both talk at the same time. How exactly does this work in App_rpt? I only have one radio to work with with one simplex frequency, is this not intended for this type of setup? >BTW: We are working on a less expensive solution which requires 2 of inexpensive X100p FXO cards (around $10-$20) plus a modified ARIB, but it isn't >ready yet as it requires either changes to the ARIB, or an addtional external board. That sounds like a more economical solution. Do you plan on having this anytime soon? One of the biggest things that attracted me to this project was openness. I think echolink and IRLP are excellent systems, but too closed and proprietary in nature which prohibits experimentation. I hope this project goes far! 73's and tnx Stephen N1VLV On 2/6/07, Steve Rodgers wrote: > > John, > > You will need the following in addition to what you have already listed: > > 1. A digium TDM400 with one FXS daughterboard. Digium part number TDM10B. > This > is going to cost around $140.00. There is a Chinese knockoff of the > TDM400p > part number A400P10 for $93.00 which we haven't tested available from > openvox: http://www.openvox.com.cn/products_detail.php?genre_id=9&id=27. > > 2. One ARIB board. This board can be built for around $60-$70. Board > blanks > are available from us for $10 each plus shipping. > > 3. A modular to modular to modular telephone cable. > > We would like to suggest you plan to build a full-duplex system as this > will > provide much more flexibility than a simplex node. > > > BTW: We are working on a less expensive solution which requires 2 of > inexpensive X100p FXO cards (around $10-$20) plus a modified ARIB, but it > isn't ready yet as it requires either changes to the ARIB, or an addtional > external board. > > Steve. > > > > On Tuesday 06 February 2007 07:43, Stephen Brown Jr wrote: > > Hi, I've been lurking on this list for quite some time and I am > extremely > > interested in setting up a simplex node to start playing with this. What > > exactly will I need besides the obvious(radio, computer, etc), I am > little > > confused on what type of FXS card I will need just for a single radio, > all > > the ones I have seen are fairly pricey. I will then need an ARIB board > to > > interface the radio to the FXS card correct? > > > > tnx and 73's > > Stephen > > N1VLV > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt mailing list > App_rpt at lists.illiana.net > http://lists.illiana.net/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.illiana.net/pipermail/app_rpt/attachments/20070206/691c1705/attachment.html From hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com Tue Feb 6 16:16:58 2007 From: hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com (Steve Rodgers) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 14:16:58 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt] Setting up a simplex node In-Reply-To: References: <200702060929.38932.hwstar@rodgers.sdcoxmail.com> Message-ID: <200702061416.58534.hwstar@rodgers.sdcoxmail.com> Stephen, See my responses below: On Tuesday 06 February 2007 10:06, Stephen Brown Jr wrote: > > We would like to suggest you plan to build a full-duplex system as this > > will provide much more flexibility than a simplex node. > > That brings up another interesting point that I failed to mention in my > original posting. I am a little confused as to the definition of full > duplex. When I think full duplex, I think that of like a telephone > conversation where the caller and receiver can both talk at the same time. > How exactly does this work in App_rpt? I only have one radio to work with > with one simplex frequency, is this not intended for this type of setup? Allthough simplex nodes can be deployed, they suffer from a number of drawbacks. The major deficeit is break-in capability. If you are listening to a busy QSO on a linked system with a bunch of nodes connected, a simplex node cannot be used to break in to a that QSO since your simplex radio will always be transmitting and your receiver will be disabled. In addition, you will not be able to use remote bases on the system if they get tuned to busy channels. (This is a real problem with HF remote bases), and you'll be locked out of disconnecting from the remote base. Another minor drawback is that is is much more difficult to get the audio levels adjusted on a simplex node since you can't adjust transmit and receive levels at the same time. Full duplex will require two radios and a duplexer. (you will be essentially be building a repeater). Being able to transmit and receive at the same time from a user radio is not the primary advantage of building a full duplex node, but the added benefit to doing it this way is that you don't have to wait for any carrier drops before talking or breaking into an existing QSO, and on a linked system such as allstar link, this full duplex is really the only way to go. > > >BTW: We are working on a less expensive solution which requires 2 of > > inexpensive X100p FXO cards (around $10-$20) plus a modified ARIB, but it > isn't >ready yet as it requires either changes to the ARIB, or an addtional > external board. > > That sounds like a more economical solution. Do you plan on having this > anytime soon? We can't promise a delivery dats on this, but it is something we are persuing. > > One of the biggest things that attracted me to this project was openness. I > think echolink and IRLP are excellent systems, but too closed and > proprietary in nature which prohibits experimentation. I hope this project > goes far! Yep. > > 73's and tnx > Stephen > N1VLV > > On 2/6/07, Steve Rodgers wrote: > > John, > > > > You will need the following in addition to what you have already listed: > > > > 1. A digium TDM400 with one FXS daughterboard. Digium part number TDM10B. > > This > > is going to cost around $140.00. There is a Chinese knockoff of the > > TDM400p > > part number A400P10 for $93.00 which we haven't tested available from > > openvox: http://www.openvox.com.cn/products_detail.php?genre_id=9&id=27. > > > > 2. One ARIB board. This board can be built for around $60-$70. Board > > blanks > > are available from us for $10 each plus shipping. > > > > 3. A modular to modular to modular telephone cable. > > > > We would like to suggest you plan to build a full-duplex system as this > > will > > provide much more flexibility than a simplex node. > > > > > > BTW: We are working on a less expensive solution which requires 2 of > > inexpensive X100p FXO cards (around $10-$20) plus a modified ARIB, but it > > isn't ready yet as it requires either changes to the ARIB, or an > > addtional external board. > > > > Steve. > > > > On Tuesday 06 February 2007 07:43, Stephen Brown Jr wrote: > > > Hi, I've been lurking on this list for quite some time and I am > > > > extremely > > > > > interested in setting up a simplex node to start playing with this. > > > What exactly will I need besides the obvious(radio, computer, etc), I > > > am > > > > little > > > > > confused on what type of FXS card I will need just for a single radio, > > > > all > > > > > the ones I have seen are fairly pricey. I will then need an ARIB board > > > > to > > > > > interface the radio to the FXS card correct? > > > > > > tnx and 73's > > > Stephen > > > N1VLV > > > > _______________________________________________ > > App_rpt mailing list > > App_rpt at lists.illiana.net > > http://lists.illiana.net/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt From w4wwm at knology.net Fri Feb 23 21:18:10 2007 From: w4wwm at knology.net (Will Wright) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 21:18:10 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt] Asterisk software update to 1.4 CVN Message-ID: <1172287091.5075.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> Steve or Jim, If possible, could someone show me how to update to Asterisk 1.4? Or would one of you like to check into my system and run the updated? I am still running version 49 and believe I'm missing out on some of the improvements to the app_rpt applications. If you cannot not please direct me to the howto's to follow and I will attempt the update. Thanks and I appreciation your time in advance. Will / W4WWM From hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com Sat Feb 24 12:52:52 2007 From: hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com (Stephen Rodgers) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 10:52:52 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt] Asterisk software update to 1.4 CVN In-Reply-To: <1172287091.5075.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1172287091.5075.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <45E08984.4060200@rodgers.sdcoxmail.com> Will, We will be releasing another version of app_rpt very soon. I would suggest waiting until that happens. Once all of our code fixes are in Digium's SVN repository, we will announce that on this list. Regarding the upgrade, you can do this yourself by following the instructions in the README file within the Asterisk 1.4 download. Just remember save backup copies of your config files, turn on DTMF_RELAX and turn on app_rpt in the configuration menu. If you run into problems, send me ssh access instructions to acces the root account off list. I can then fix any problem you have by using the ssh connection. Steve. Will Wright wrote: > Steve or Jim, > > If possible, could someone show me how to update to Asterisk 1.4? Or > would one of you like to check into my system and run the updated? I am > still running version 49 and believe I'm missing out on some of the > improvements to the app_rpt applications. > > If you cannot not please direct me to the howto's to follow and I will > attempt the update. Thanks and I appreciation your time in advance. > > Will / W4WWM > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt mailing list > App_rpt at lists.illiana.net > http://lists.illiana.net/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt > From kf4fwo at gmail.com Tue Feb 27 11:29:54 2007 From: kf4fwo at gmail.com (David Craig) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 12:29:54 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt] Remote Base Message-ID: Can App_rpt be used with an ATA for a simplex or half duplex remote base. The example might be an Grandstream HandyTone 286 with the FXS port connected ARIB. I have a situation where I need a very small radio interface and my asterisk box will be remote via a high speed connection. Thanks for any help. David -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.illiana.net/pipermail/app_rpt/attachments/20070227/af6feaea/attachment.htm From hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com Tue Feb 27 16:54:15 2007 From: hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com (Stephen Rodgers) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:54:15 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt] Remote Base In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45E4B697.6060900@rodgers.sdcoxmail.com> ATA's don't support the line signalling methods required by the ARIB to indicate PTT and/or COR presence. Steve. David Craig wrote: > Can App_rpt be used with an ATA for a simplex or half duplex remote base. > The example might be an Grandstream HandyTone 286 with the FXS port > connected ARIB. > > I have a situation where I need a very small radio interface and my > asterisk > box will be remote via a high speed connection. > > > Thanks for any help. > > David > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt mailing list > App_rpt at lists.illiana.net > http://lists.illiana.net/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt